pivot to asia and trying to work more cooperatively to counter china. so certainly senator kerry, if he becomes the next secretary of state have a full plate. >> what was he like in terms of his personality? i covered him in 2004 when he was running for president in george w. bush and he was not really able to relate or identify to everyday folks, but he has quite a reputation overseas and abroad. overseas and abroad he has a reputation for knowing issue and he has relationships with a lot of world leaders and it was senator john kerry who convinced afghan president hamid karzai to go for a runoff election when the presidential elections were in question and i think he's going to be able to relate to leaders suft as secretary clinton did as a politician when these leaders are having problems compromising to say, listen, i'm in your seat. i know where you've been and run for office before and i think that will serve him well. here in washington, he is seen as someone who is very confident and on top of his brief and also someone who likes to control issu